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Wants to sell kvts

Uchiki

Uchiki

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@Azurite11
Your choice of action, but you may find posts #4 and #10 on this thread helpful in terms of finding a trusted party.
Deleting your and related posts based on this forum rule:

Don't initiate private transactions

The forums should not be used for private transactions due to the possibility of scams and impersonations. Please don't post offers or bids for off-market transactions. KVT trading is officially only available on the exchange so please be wary if transacting with other people outside of the forum.
 
Uchiki said:
@Azurite11
Your choice of action, but you may find posts #4 and #10 on this thread helpful in terms of finding a trusted party.
Deleting your and related posts based on this forum rule:

Don't initiate private transactions

The forums should not be used for private transactions due to the possibility of scams and impersonations. Please don't post offers or bids for off-market transactions. KVT trading is officially only available on the exchange so please be wary if transacting with other people outside of the forum.
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Oh so now the platform that was meant to be for all people to have a voice is being censored.
HOW PATHETIC!
 
Whatever, it's censor! Over time I've come to the conclusion Kinesis seems to be the direct opposite of protecting our interests actually. What about the promises and projections Kinesis made at the initial float of the KVT? So it's OK to lie or distort information, but god forbid an honest financial transaction to try to simply get your money back after 3.5 years? That can't allowed. It's a bit late for that kind of ethics isn't it? I'd like to know the legal framework allowing Kinesis for locking up the KVT for this long and if this enables Kinesis to in fact 'never' allow the KVT to be sold on the exchange? I never got a reply to this from Hariz Radzi funnily enough, although he too recommended a private sale with no advice on how to go about it.Totally appalling to have to go to Reddit to sell.
 
By the way, I know of other people in Australia who invested alot more than me who also want to sell. How are their voices being heard?
 
Azurite11 said:
Oh so now the platform that was meant to be for all people to have a voice is being censored.
HOW PATHETIC!
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Aren't you pleasant?

I run the forum. It's the Community Forum for a reason, and I think you might be a bit presumptuous when asserting its intent and purpose.

A reply to your question linked to another thread. The answer to your query was in the second post of that thread you were pointed toward, and if you're unsure of how to send a message that you can simply read the rest of the thread for illustrated answers to that as well. For your convenience, click here to go to the relevant post.

Personally I think now is a poor time to sell, but we see this in markets all the time, when capitulation happens right before the bottom. I'd take some off your hands, but I acquired 3 more KVT last week so I'm not in the position to purchase more right now.

But Indonesia is coming online as we speak, though slowly (the Pos-Pay app added the notification that users can buy gold on the app today, I believe.) NU is still coming online later this year, and there's another country coming online this year as well.

But if you're done, you're done. Click the link, send the message, make it happen.

But don't solicit openly here, please. That's not the purpose of this forum.
 
I have had no feedback from any channels from Kinesis for years, there's no one in the office in Brisbane, no phone number, the occasional email once every few years. Some people are in the position that they need to sell, you know, for the money, if that is at all comprehensible. I was very pleasant 3.5 years ago - but this has gone on for too long- happy to have nothing to do with this chat or this company as long as I can get out with my initial investment.
 
Azurite11 said:
I have had no feedback from any channels from Kinesis for years, there's no one in the office in Brisbane, no phone number, the occasional email once every few years.
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I'm sorry to hear that. My experiences with my account rep and e-mail/chat support have always been solid, but I understand account reps vary in quality. Mine has a NYC area code though, and his number is listed at the bottom of his e-mail - I'm surprised your rep isn't more available.

Azurite11 said:
happy to have nothing to do with this chat or this company as long as I can get out with my initial investment.
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For now, private sale is the only way, but Jim is certainly the right person to talk to.
 
So the KVT are for sale, 'I acquired 3 more KVT last week' was this on the exchange or privately? And if on the exchange can one person here or elsewhere explain why - the KVT cannot be sold on the exchange? Whose interests does this serve and why? Just a plain answer to an honest question.
 
I'm sorry, where was the specific linked information to assist in my safe exit? All I heard was Reddit?
Sorry to disturb the comfy chat where I can't wait for my reward after 3.5 years and I'm so unpleasant but why are we still having to buy and sell privately? Does ANYONE WONDER WHY or have an answer? NO that's what I hear. Oh that's violating community chat standards and no-one here is a Kinesis employee so basically this is all moot. At least I only lost $1500AUD! Good luck! I can't believe the CEO is Australian- this is what we here call BULLSHIT!
 
i am very aware of some poor unfortunates who have been scammed big time on the Telegram thread. BE CAREFUL. This was in exactly the same sort of situation going on here. There is every reason for those running the forum to be cautious and restrict what is posted however much members might scream. We most certainly do not want to start the road to a hot bed of scammers and without strict rules that is what would happen.

i have bought KVT's through private transactions for KAU's. i did it with a very trusted member of the community i had known for a long time before the deal. It was arranged away from the public face of the forum and i was 100% certain of the character of the seller. We completed the deal in a matter of minutes.

As far as i am aware the Telegram group 'Kinesis - Dissident Corner of Grumpy Old Men' was formed to trade KVT's. Quite a few of us here are also members there.
i haven't got involved in private sales of KVT's otherwise but there may be trusted third parties who have acted as intermediaries for the buyer and seller. Perhaps someone here could say more about this. (i see Steve W has posted whilst i was typing this)

i echo what Derek is saying about this could be a bad time to sell - unless of course you have to sell which is another business of course. The yields are going to start within the 'next month'. Tom has gone public on this. i saw three new partners in the partner list on the Kinesis website. Personally i would hang back for a while longer. i for one am still minting to get KVT's and it was not that long ago i bought the KVT's for a relative - so i for one am not about to bail out.
 
sixgun said:
i haven't got involved in private sales of KVT's otherwise but there may be trusted third parties who have acted as intermediaries for the buyer and seller. Perhaps someone here could say more about this.
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Thank-you for your message, however the point remains that there doesn't seem to be trusted third parties who can act as intermediaries for the buyer and seller of KVTs, perhaps someone could enlighten us on this?
 
Azurite11 said:
Thank-you for your message, however the point remains that there doesn't seem to be trusted third parties who can act as intermediaries for the buyer and seller of KVTs, perhaps someone could enlighten us on this?
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I dm'd you earlier with somw info. Did you get it?
 
I just got a message from Sprott Money, announcing a change to fees for storage: min annual charge $200 and 0.65% p.a. of averaged value throughout the year at my level.

I have to store $1m to get even The Royal Mint's 0.5% for modest holdings.

Nothing against Eric Sprott, as he invests in some of the same junior miners I've invested in and I think is one of the very good guys. Nothing against The Royal Mint, but if anything happens, its single shareholder is *His Majesty's* Treasury and he has *His Majesty's* Armed Forces and I don't.

Kinesis has paid me Holder's yield every month for the silver & gold I switched to them from The Royal Mint. To get those yields in gold and silver I've sat around with my thumb up my bum (purely metaphorical, of course).

KVTs maybe trading in April and I can understand people's points against doing that, but division to open them up to millions will ultimately hugely support the price and trading activity.

So...April 30th is 65 days away, with a raft of positive announcements to come, Indonesia warming up... If it's possible to hang in there until, say, July, it might be better, but it's not my choice.
 
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